2061-09 - Self Grades or Exams as of 10-03-09

FROM: Onliner or TO www.bcidot.org

         It seems that Christ Centered Ministries -- especially those of us who handle $500,000 or less per annum -- would greatly benefit from what I call Online "Self-Audit" tools as they examine/grade themselves by financial topic?

TO: Onliner: FROM: Jim Bramer, Retired Auditor-CPA

        Absolutely, the use of such resources listed below will contribute to the correction of staff negligence and/or even any possible stealing that might be taking place.    It seems that I am hearing all too often about crime via staff members and this could greatly reduce such problems.
        Be sure and let me know if you have any comments or questions about Financial Exam Grade Report Information by type of Ministry within the link contents below.

Churches                                 http://www.bcidot.org/chu/5128-77.html

Mission Agencies                  http://www.bcidot.org/mis/8128-77.html

Christian School                  http://www.bcidot.org/sch/7128-77.html

    We trust you also find of value the matters covered within the following link contents:

Self Evaluation re Ministry Finance Issues     http://www.bcidot.org/all/0005-01.html

Self Fiscal Exam Grades                                    http://www.bcidot.org/all/0075-01.html

Self Examination re Ministry Finances              http://www.bcidot.org/fwi/0901-03.html

Fiscal Fitness Exam                                               http://www.bcidot.org/hlp/0129-06.html

Evaluation of Ministry Finance Concerns        http://www.bcidot.org/hlp/0025-01.html

FROM: Onliner:

   Thank you ever so much, Jim.   Any comments about getting such information from our Auditor?

TO: Onliner:

                    Yes, I have maintained for some time that such grades should periodically be incorporated within the results of either an External or even an Internal audit.   Then, ideally, the Board members would independently answer the same questions and then compare their evaluations to that from these professionals so that all are on the same page.

FROM: Onliner:

     To your knowledge does a relationship with "Evangelical Council For Accountability (ECFA)" involve obtaining any of these type of grades?

        TO: Onliner:

                As your CPA and/or Auditor provides services for ECFA members, they are NOT REQUIRED to provide such evaluations and/or grades.   Perhaps any CPA working with such Ministries for any type of assignment should regularly provide this service from their professional perspective.

FROM: Onliner:

       It sure seems that such tools would greatly help us do the very best job possible. Thanx again.