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FROM: Jim Bramer,
RE: Personal Finances & Bookkeeping - Self Exam, etc. Originated: October 2004
Below is a hypothetical Online Email thread (THRD) between any one of the following eEnvelope participates: John (Husband or non married male), or Mary (Wife or unmarried female) and Jim@BCIDOT.ORG Click here and go to List of threads (THRDs) at Ministry Finance Team Helps
Jim, I just read your editorial at 0917 --- the quote below rings a bell with both my husband John and I.
"BUT what concerns this retired "Bean Counter" is that people need help beyond the extremely valuable Bible Study and Fellowship time and even beyond the establishment of a Budget per se. Namely, since most of today's families buy a lot of things using plastic and checks, they MUST do the necessary bookkeeping so they can timely know their financial status and make wise buying decisions."
FR: Jim Bramer, Retired CPA.
Thank you, Mary ---- let me share a little more perspective. I am so very very thankful for the Ministries that are set forth within 4999 --- they provide tremendous spiritual resources for all of us. However, my heart particularly goes out to those who DO NOT do well with the necessary financial record keeping and therefore are not likely to timely know if they are within spending limits. Or they are guessing and likely to overspend with the obvious negative results.
By the way ---- please be aware after July 2006 of this Spending Control website.
Yes, John and I have been involved in one of the ministries above and they have really been a significant blessing to both of us.
But before we get into any more details on improvement along these lines ---- do you have any Self-Exam means that will allow us to evaluate ourselves?
FR: Jim B.
Yes --- I trust that the list below helps you discover your strengths and weaknesses as you mark either the OK or Not OK column Please take special notice of the Nbr-ed tasks below to the left that have a bracket (xx) around them since I will discuss them later.
Probable Sequential Tasks
Agree re Righteous Personal Finance vow - Click Here re sample
Divide up and agree to Spousal Duties - Click Here for more info
Establish and evaluate your budget every three months
Keep needed records of money received
Keep track of bills to pay
Timely pay bills - mark when/how paid
Update your Check Stubs - payee, amount and classification
Keep a running balance of money in Bank accounts
Reconcile your Bank Account records to the Bank Statement
Timely record ATM withdrawals etc
Keep slips and track Credit Card buying
Keep record of how much is owed to the CrCard Co
Reconcile your Credit Card record to their Statement, etc.
Timely pay so you incur no CrCard Interest Expense
Maintain/update "Actual to Budget" records
Reporting of "Actual to Budget" status
Filing and location of financial records.
Readily have info for Tax Return preparation, etc.
Maintain supply of finance paperwork
Make appropriate use of a Personal Finance Computer System
as that found when you go to 0400
Obviously, If John and I mark off too many in the Not OK column above, we are the people that you are concerned about. Let's suppose that we obviously need some improvements. What options do we have?
FR: Jim B.
In my judgment, you need to email me at Jim@bcidot.org and we dialog about the following options:
A> You want to utilize the Internet and have some one else do virtually all of your bookkeeping for you. If so, please take a look at the content of 0905
B> You prefer to learn how to do the bookkeeping yourselves, but you need help with method determination and the necessary training.
C> Whether you do the bookkeeping yourselves or you out-source the bulk of it, I trust you understand the applicable 0400 Envelope Spending Control system per the following overview.
1> You define "Spending" areas of your life. See the Envelope areas shown in this sample report
2> You determine in advance how much of your available money goes into these "Spending" areas and you place all of your money upon receipt into these virtual Envelopes.
3> You do your prudent buying from the available balance in the applicable Envelope. You discipline yourself as you thoroughly understand the weekly reports that includes the most current Credit Card and/or Bank activity. This enables the family buyer to always know how much money there is to spend in each spending area and make appropriate buying decisions there from. You make no buying decisions simply based on your Bank or Credit Card account balances.
Please tell me a little more about some one else doing portions of our bookkeeping, etc. And why is this peculiar to the Internet? Also what about the bracketed or (xx) items appearing in the Self-Exam above -- what do they mean?
FR: Jim B.
Oh, thank you for reminding me ..... I intended to share that if you have a number of bracketed items (xx) in the Not OK portion of the Self-Exam list above, you are a candidate for getting help to do your bookkeeping.
As you know, it is possible to have someone either come to your home or you go to their home/office and regularly have them do the bookkeeping of your family finances.
But, our personal finances are very private ---- plus some of us are somewhat embarrassed about not doing a good job in this area of our lives -- or we need to correct some spending mistakes that we have made. Therefore, as shared in some detail within 0917, it is often appealing to be able to retain some reliable person that you have never met face-to-face and both of you use remote Internet tools in this process. Please go to 4201 ( CAUTION: BuxBox, QBuxBox and Envelope all mean the same thing) for more details, but someone like a remote HOMER can assist you in at least the following ways:
>> Together you finalize your Righteous Personal Finance budget
>> Together you structure your virtual Envelope system.
>> This person works with you re the bookkeeping software/system as it is made accessible via the Internet for both parties.
>> Works with you to record your weekly Plastic, or Credit Cards, purchases.
>> Works with you as your Checking account transactions flow weekly via your Bank/Internet to the Envelope system
>> Assist you as the transactions are coded and processed for the Envelope system
>> Produce Envelope system reports that clearly show activity and how much is in each virtual Envelope so that -
>> You know if you have any money in applicable Envelopes to spend during the following week.
>> CAUTION: Remember ... it is the HOMER's primary function to help you bookkeep past history and timely get reports to you, so you can righteously spent in the future as unto the Lord.
>> And NOT necessarily to assist you in tax or investment matters, or provide counsel about Righteous Personal Finance matters or debt management. It is probably best to use other resources for such purposes.
One more thing .... I have talked with some of our married friends who begin their personal finance bookkeeping by having separate Checking accounts for "HIS", "HERS" and "THEIRS." Or they divide up the money that comes in and they place it into these separate Checking accounts. Of course, they also have Savings accounts that contain money that they prefer to not touch unless there is an emergency (1).
FR: Jim B.
I know of some married couples that have successfully done this for years. My comments are:
CAUTION: It is essential that married couples have a united team approach in all personal finance matters within a marriage relationship. In my view, such a structure/system could contribute to this not happening and stress in the marriage relationship.
A common/agreed approach to Righteous Personal Finances for a family could be difficult when HIS and HERS money is part of their life style.
More bank accounts likely add to the bookkeeping chores
You could assign HIS and HERS money to spend within respective Envelopes and probably accomplish such a needed objective. Please notice the two sides of the dollar approach (Side A - Available Resources and Side 1 - Committed Areas) in the sample shown when you Click Here.
Having money in Savings accounts contribute to a "sacredness" and encourages the family toward a "do not touch" approach.
Right --- John and I do NOT want to have any more opportunities to "fight over money" that such a set up might allow. Especially, if I understand what you say about the virtual Envelope system above, that such money can be in a common Checking Accounts and still be committed for HIS or HER agreed purposes.
FR: Jim B.
That is the overall value of the virtual Envelope system. It is interesting that some folks prefer to not even include Savings Accounts within their Envelope system, or they restrict the Envelope system to only the needed SPENDING CONTROLS of their usual everyday life style experiences, etc.
Is there anything else I should know, Jim?
FR: Jim B.
Yes --- Please be aware of this web contents when you Click Here and Here. The gives you more perspective about using the Internet to do bookkeeping/accounting tasks as done at Churches and/or Ministries. At the appropriate time, something along these lines could be provided for use of Internet as to Righteous Personal Finance via the eEnvelope system.
Thank you for providing these resources, Jim. We will be in touch.
Please Click Here for a list of eEnvelope writings on Ministry Finance Team Helps. Feel free to contact me at Jim@bcidot.org if you have any comments or questions about any of these matters. Remember -- It is my desire to encourage you in your Christian walk and to be "Your Servant for Jesus Sake:" Thank you. II Corinthians 4:5B. This was updated last on: June 04, 2010
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